The Iraqi "resistance"
Saddam's 30 year tyranny fell in 3 weeks
when it came up against the U.S. military
and its allies in 2003.
Saddam has been captured and executed
and his sons have been killed.
Given this stunning record,
no "resistance" has the slightest chance of defeating the U.S. military,
ending democracy,
and restoring tyranny.
The resistance can't win an open military fight.
They can't win an election
(because nobody supports them).
So why do they exist?
They exist because of fantasy Islamism.
Fantasy jihadi Islamism is a suicidal, messianic belief system
that will fight the free countries forever (or at least until Islamism's destruction),
because it is in its nature.
The chances of success do not seem to matter.
They do not seem to care that
the vast majority of Iraqis hate the resistance
and support the
elections.
They do not care that
90 percent of Iraqis
support U.S. military attacks on the resistance.
They do not care that
nobody in Iraq wants the totalitarian Islamist state that
they are fighting for.
The jihadis are coming to Iraq because this is where the front is
in the war on the infidels.
It is depressing that these people exist,
but maybe this was inevitable.
The war had to take place somewhere, and better here than in the streets
of America.
Islamism
will always want to kill the infidels.
It is its very nature.
If not here, then somewhere else.
It will never end, until Islamism is destroyed.
So rather than part of the Iraq War (which is over),
this is actually part of the larger war -
the War on Islamism.
And so the Iraqi "resistance" will probably never end until
Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia
are liberated.
The Iraqi "resistance"
Videos
The nature of the "resistance"
-
Letter from the Mayor of Tall 'Afar, Iraq
to the men and women of the
3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment,
who liberated his city from the "resistance" in September 2005:
- "To the lion-hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists
who were beheading men, women and children in the streets for many months."
- "Our city was the main base of operations for Abu Mousab Al Zarqawi.
The city was completely held hostage in the hands of his henchmen.
Our schools, governmental services, businesses and offices were closed.
Our streets were silent, and no one dared to walk them.
Our people were barricaded in their homes out of fear; death awaited them around every corner.
Terrorists occupied and controlled the only hospital in the city.
Their savagery reached such a level that they stuffed the corpses of children with explosives
and tossed them into the streets in order to kill grieving parents attempting to retrieve the bodies of their young.
This was the situation of our city
until God prepared and delivered unto them the courageous soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment,
who liberated this city, ridding it of Zarqawi's followers after harsh fighting,
killing many terrorists, and forcing the remaining butchers to flee the city like rats to the surrounding areas,
where the bravery of other 3d ACR soldiers in Sinjar, Rabiah, Zumar and Avgani finally destroyed them."
- "I have met many soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment;
they are not only courageous men and women,
but avenging angels sent by The God Himself
to fight the evil of terrorism.
...
Officers and soldiers alike bristle with the confidence and character of knights in a bygone era.
The mission they have accomplished, by means of a unique military operation,
stands among the finest military feats to date in Operation Iraqi Freedom,
and truly deserves to be studied in military science.
This military operation was clean, with little collateral damage,
despite the ferocity of the enemy.
With the skill and precision of surgeons they dealt with the terrorist cancers
in the city
without causing unnecessary damage."
- "Let America, their families, and the world be proud of their sacrifice for humanity and life."
-
Kurds have similar praise for the US soldiers
when their bereaved families came to visit Iraq in Nov 2006:
-
"The next morning, a plane flew the families into Arbil,
the capital of the Kurdistan region in northern Iraq.
...
There, they said, their sons were treated as liberators
and the parents welcomed as heroes.
As guests of the Kurdistan Regional Government, the parents visited a parade of politicians and government ministers who thanked them for their visit -- and their sacrifice.
Many told the families their sons were martyrs"
- "Wherever they traveled, fellow mother Debra Argel Bastian ...
handed out wallet-sized photos of her son ...
One mother tucked the photo into a framed picture of her two sons and husband, who had also been killed during Saddam's rule.
"Now your son is my son,"
the woman told Bastian.
She broke down crying."
- '"I needed to make that trip," said Bastian ...
"All of us were very, very disappointed in the media coverage over the war.
I had so many avenues that were telling me different, that there were good things happening in Iraq, that they were just reporting the bomb of the day."'
The killing of Nick Berg
(also here
and here
and here
and here)
shows the face of the Iraqi "resistance".
Perhaps the defining image of the Iraq War.
This is a war between good and evil,
and the left is on the side of evil.
The killer of Nick Berg was
the religious psychopath Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.
Justice came calling for him
in June 2006.
-
Letter from the foreign Islamofascist "resistance" leader
Abu
Musab al Zarqawi
(also here)
to the leaders of al Qaeda, Jan 2004,
shows how hard it is for them to organise
a "resistance" in liberated Iraq:
- "Many Iraqis would honor you as a
guest and give you refuge, for you are a Muslim brother;
however, they will not allow you to make their homes
a base for operations or a safe house.
People who will allow you to do such things are very rare, rarer than red
sulfur.
...
There is no doubt that our field of movement is shrinking and the grip around the throat of the
Mujahidin has begun to tighten.
With the spread of the army and police, our future is becoming frightening.
...
Despite few supporters, lack of friends, and tough times
..."
- Amazingly, he has decided that almost all Iraqis
are the enemy.
"after much inquiry and discussion, we have narrowed our enemy to four groups:"
- "Americans"
- "Kurds these are a pain and a thorn,
and it is not time yet to deal with them. They are last on our list"
- "The Iraqi troops, police, and agents"
- "The Shi'a in our opinion, these are the key to change.
Targeting and striking their religious, political, and
military symbols .."
He thinks the only hope is in starting a Sunni-Shiite civil war.
- And this animal wonders why the Iraqis don't like him.
- He notes that the Shi'a
"have supported the Americans, helped them, and stand with them against the Mujahidin. They work
and continue to work towards the destruction of the Mujahidin."
- He worries that they are even losing the Sunnis.
He is terrified of Iraqi democracy and self-determination:
"they have succeeded in splitting the regular Sunni
from the Mujahidin. For example, in what they call the Sunni triangle, the army and police are spreading out in
these regions, putting in charge Sunnis from the same region. Therefore, the problem is you end up having an
army and police connected by lineage, blood, and appearance to the people of the region.
...
How can we kill their cousins and sons and under what pretext, after the Americans start withdrawing? The
Americans will continue to control from their bases, but the sons of this land will be the authority. This is the
democracy, we will have no pretext."
- They may have to give up.
One more huge loss for Islamofascism
in a stunning series of losses since 9/11:
"we can pack up and leave and look for another land, just like it has happened in so many lands of jihad. Our
enemy is growing stronger day after day, and its intelligence information increases. By god, this is suffocation!
We will be on the roads again."
- Again, the total destruction of Iraq in civil war is his only hope,
and what he is fighting for:
"So I say again, the only solution is to strike the religious, military, and other cadres of the Shi'a
so that they revolt against the Sunnis. Some people will say, that this will be a reckless and irresponsible action
that will bring the Islamic nation to a battle for which the Islamic nation is unprepared. Souls will perish and
blood will be spilled. This is, however, exactly what we want, as there is nothing to win or lose in our situation.
The Shi'a destroyed the balance, and the religion of God is worth more than lives. Until the majority stands up
for the truth, we have to make sacrifices for this religion, and blood has to be spilled. For those who are good,
we will speed up their trip to paradise, and the others, we will get rid of them."
- How easily Islamofascism turns to butchering other Muslims.
He describes the Shia Muslims as "vile infidels":
"If we are able to deal them blow after painful blow so that they engage in a battle, we will be able to reshuffle
the cards
...
This is what we want. Then, the Sunni will have no choice but to
support us in many of the Sunni regions.
When the Mujahidin would have secured a land they can use as a base
to hit the Shi'a inside their own lands
...
As far as the Shi'a, we will undertake suicide operations and use car bombs to harm them.
...
If, god forbid, the government is successful
and takes control of the country, we just have to pack up and go somewhere else again, where we can raise
the flag again or die, if god chooses us.
...
As we have explained, this is our belief. So if you agree with it and are
convinced of the idea of killing the perverse sects, we stand ready as an army for you, to work under your
guidance and yield to your command."
-
The Jihadis' Primal Scream
by Michael Ledeen, says
the resistance is going badly for the fascists.
They might lose, and be driven out of Iraq.
The West can win this war, if we don't stop now:
"Faster, please."
-
Middle East on trial
- Sunday Times editorial, January 30, 2005,
as the fascist resistance threatens to kill anyone who votes in
Iraq's first ever election.
- "If ever there was any doubt about the importance of today's first,
fully free election in an Arab country, we have to look no further than a statement by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,
the self-appointed mastermind of the beheadings, bombings and terror that have so blighted Iraq in recent months.
"We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy
and those who follow this wrong ideology,"
says the reformed Jordanian thug and drunk
who is now a born-again jihadist. And why is this, Mr Zarqawi? Because
"democracy is also based on the right to choose your religion and that is against the rule of God".
So there we have it. Democracy is evil because the people get to choose who they want to rule them.
And - even worse - they are free to choose their religion."
The real way to prevent post-war resistance
-
The Paradoxes of American Military Power
- Victor Davis Hanson with some real advice
on how to defeat the enemy
so completely that there is no post-war resistance.
The US must maximise its use of the brief window of
open warfare:
-
"Conflicts proper .. are now often brief, indeed more a matter of
days or weeks than of months or years. And these windows of war per se constitute
about the
only time that Western forces are given transitory leeway to use their overwhelming military
preponderance - without worries of censure - to finish off quite odious enemies.
...
This rule of postmodern war?
Before the cameras, the auditors, and the UN converge, before
terrified fleeing soldiers are reborn as emboldened terrorists, before embedded reporters leave
and investigative journalists arrive, and before victorious and unapologetic soldiers are asked to be
peacekeepers, sociologists, and humanitarians, the military must
finish the destruction of enemy
forces in the unforgiving minute."
-
In Praise of Attrition
by Ralph Peters
- "It cannot be repeated often enough: Whatever else you aim to do
in wartime, never lose your focus on killing the enemy.
A number of the problems we have faced in the aftermath of
Operation Iraqi Freedom arose because we tried to
moderate the amount of destruction we inflicted on the Iraqi military.
The only result was the rise of an Iraqi Dolchstosslegende,
the notion that they weren't really defeated, but betrayed.
...
crucial portions of the population never really felt America's power.
It is not enough to materially defeat your enemy. You must convince your enemy
that he has been defeated."
-
The Lessons of Fallujah:
Killing terrorists doesn't make them stronger,
November 17, 2004
- "apart from the military success, the big news of the Fallujah campaign
is that most Iraqis quietly supported it. The protests from nationalist politicians was far more muted
than in April, perhaps because they have seen from the car bombings and beheadings
what the Zarqawis also intend for them."

Cartoon from Cox and Forkum
(see here).
See Cartoon Use Policy.
- The journalist
Jill Carroll
is made of better stuff:
- Jill Carroll
was held hostage under constant threat of beheading
for 3 months
by jihadi scum who slaughtered her interpreter, 32 year old Allan Enwiyah,
father of two children.
They released videos of her captive and crying to the world.
- At her release, they forced her to make a
moronic statement supporting
the Mujahedeen.
- As soon as she felt safe, she
repudiated that statement:
"During my last night of captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video.
...
Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some
as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not.
...
I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.
...
Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times."
Brave woman. Good for her.
- The jihadi statement:
- So let me analyse
her earlier statement
as the voice of the jihadis, not of her.
The
moronic statement
claims that the jihadis, who are fighting to stop Iraqi democracy
and impose a fanatical Islamist state that
no voters want,
are in fact fighting for
"freedom":
"There are a lot of lies to come out of the American government,
calling the Mujahedeen terrorists and other things and I think it's important that American people
hear from me the Mujahedeen are only trying to defend their country.
This is only a jihad to stop an illegal and dangerous and deadly occupation
so I think it's important that people see the Mujahedeen are people that we've seen in our
entire history resisting an occupation trying to fight a foreign force in their land,
it's their country and they have a right to fight for their own freedom"
- Translation: We want to set up an Islamist tyranny.
No one votes for us. Wah wah!
So we're going to kill people until we get it.
Fighting for "freedom", my ass.
After 9/11, few leftists came out openly in support of the
Islamist attacks.
As the War on Islamism progressed however, they became bolder.
The post-war "resistance" in Iraq
by Baathists and Islamists
marked the real emergence of the left as open supporters
of the Islamist killing.
- John Pilger
-
John Pilger seems to support the killing of brave Iraqi democrats
by the Saddam butchers and Islamofascists,
November 2003:
"Next week is critical. The movement in Britain has an opportunity,
in conjunction with the resistance in Iraq, to deal a blow to the US Empire."
-
Pilger's open support for the Iraqi fascist resistance, Dec 2003:
"I
think the resistance in Iraq is incredibly important for all of us. I think that we
depend on the resistance to win so that other countries might not be attacked"
- Pilger, Jan 2004
- Q. "Do you think the anti-war movement should be supporting Iraq's anti-occupation resistance?"
- A. "Yes, I do. We cannot afford to be choosy.
While we abhor and condemn the continuing loss of innocent life in Iraq,
we have no choice now but to support the resistance, for if the resistance fails,
the "Bush gang" will attack another country. If they succeed, a grievous blow
will be suffered by the Bush gang."
-
Pilger's open support for the Iraq fascist "resistance", March 2004
- Q. "Can you approve in that context the killing of American, British or Australian troops
who are in the occupying forces?"
- A. "Well yes, they're legitimate targets."
- Pilger says:
"I think the situation in Iraq is so dire that unless the United States is defeated
there that we're likely to see an attack on Iran, we're likely to see an attack
on North Korea
and all the way down the road it could be even an attack on China within a decade,
so I think what happens in Iraq now is incredibly important."
- This is what Pilger stands for.
Sovereignty.
The safe continued existence of all dictators,
including those who run concentration camps and gas chambers,
like North Korea.
This is what this man stands for.
- Comment
- "I'm completely at a loss. There is no logic here.
Could someone explain this .. to me
...
Why is it that the trans-nationalists are the greatest proponents of untouchable national sovereignty?"
- The
Deputy Prime Minister of Australia
describes him as
"this well known apologist for Saddam Hussein"
and says:
"I am glad that Pilger with his nutty extremism was not around to
"report" during the Second World War. It's all too easy to imagine him condemning
Winston Churchill and
Franklin D Roosevelt for "invading" Europe in June 1944."
-
Traitors in our fight for survival
by Andrew Bolt, March 14, 2004
(formerly here),
describes Pilger as:
"This apologist for terrorists - this moral pygmy".
- Pilger, Aug 2004,
describes the Iraqi fascist "resistance" as
"nationalists defending their homeland".
He is also delighted
that by killing and wounding the brave American liberators,
the Iraqi fascists have
"forestalled attacks on Iran, Syria or north Korea".
See discussion.
-
Pilger is simply a defender of tyranny and a hater of democracy,
no different from the
World War Two traitors.
- George Galloway
-
George Galloway's all-out support for Iraqi fascism, Sept 2002
- "George Galloway, the Labour MP and a leading defender of Saddam Hussein,
yesterday called on Arab states to fight the British and American "Crusaders"
if a military attack is mounted against Iraq."
- His open call for Arab states to fight the Allies:
"Will they send forces to defend Iraq this time ..
or will they allow the use of their forces, air space and land by the Crusaders and foreigners"
- "I stand by every word.
If the Arabs watch Iraq destroyed
as part of a plan to keep the Arabs divided and weak,
they will face the same kind of century as the one they have endured in the past
and they should rise up and stop it."
- Asked whether he would support military action against British and American forces, he said:
"I am against this invasion. Therefore I am in favour of everything than can be done
to stop it - everything."
- During the Iraq War itself,
when liberating British and American troops
were being killed by the Iraqi fascists,
Galloway
urged the Arab world to fight
Britain and America,
Apr 2003:
"Iraq is fighting for all the Arabs. Where are the Arab armies?
...
Even if it is not realistic to ask a non-Iraqi army to come to defend Iraq,
we see Arab regimes pumping oil for the countries who are attacking it.
We wonder when the Arab leaders will wake up.
When are they going to stand by the Iraqi people?".
See summary.
-
Galloway openly supports the killing of US troops and brave Iraqi democrats by
the Saddam butchers and Islamofascists,
March 2004:
"The Iraqi resistance have a right to defend their country against the occupying invader.
They are exercising that right, with a considerable degree of success".
He describes the fascists as:
"Arab nationalists who are fighting for their country."
-
TV interview,
Nov 2004,
in which Galloway panders to the Islamic TV audience:
"The people who invaded and destroyed Iraq and have murdered more than a million Iraqi people by sanctions and war
will burn in Hell in the hell-fires,
and their name in history will be branded as killers and war criminals for all time.
...
Not the resistance, not anybody else
but these criminals who invaded and fell like wolves upon the people of Iraq."
- Interview,
Sunday Times, 5 Dec 2004,
in which Galloway says it is legally
"legitimate" for the Iraqi fascists
to kill British soldiers:
"If the war in Iraq was illegal, as no less than the secretary-general of the UN has said,
then logically the only legally legitimate people fighting in Iraq are Iraqis."
-
Brit MP says suicide attacks in Iraq legitimate,
December 11, 2004
- On the fascist suicide bombings of brave British troops and Iraqi civilians:
"I will not condemn an occupied people for using their legal rights,
their legal rights as well as their moral rights to resist the illegal occupation of their country."
- On the liberation of Iraq being so-called "illegal":
"It follows that the only people fighting legally in Iraq, therefore,
are the people defending their country against an illegal invasion."
- Galloway on Arab TV,
July 2005.
-
On Israel and Iraq:
"Two of your beautiful daughters are in the hands of foreigners - Jerusalem and Baghdad.
The foreigners are doing to your daughters as they will. The daughters are crying for help,
and the Arab world is silent. And some of them are collaborating with the rape of
these two beautiful Arab daughters."
-
On the Iraqi fascist and jihadi "resistance":
"These poor Iraqis - ragged people, with their sandals, with their Kalashnikovs,
with the lightest and most basic of weapons - are writing the names of their cities and towns
in the stars, with 145 military operations every day,
which has made the country ungovernable by the people who occupy it."
He glosses over their ferocious onslaught on the people of Iraq:
"Most of the operations which they carry out are against the occupying forces
and their collaborators,
and this is normal in every liberation struggle."
-
Interview, Aug 2005 -
Galloway says something that is actually true!
"Socialism and Islam are very close, other than on the issue of the existence of God."
In this interview
he also defends Tariq Aziz,
and again supports the evil Iraqi "resistance".
- Michael Moore
- The
multi-millionaire
Michael Moore's
apparent support
for the
Iraqi fascist "resistance",
who seek to establish an Islamist fascist state with no human rights.
This semi-educated celebrity says:
"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents"
or "terrorists" or
"The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION"
- Bowling for Fallujah
- Tariq Ali
-
Tariq Ali
calls for the killing of US troops and brave Iraqi democrats, May-June 2003.
-
He
calls for
"support for Iraqi resistance to the
Anglo-American occupation"
(i.e. support for Al-Qaida
and the remnants of Saddam's genocide-state).
He says
"it is to be hoped that the invaders of Iraq will eventually be harried out of the country by a
growing national reaction to the occupation regime they install, and that their collaborators may meet the
fate of Nuri Said before them" (i.e. death).
See
commentary on this.
-
He urges the genocide-state of North Korea
"to step up its military preparations"
to defend itself.
- To repeat, he says:
"The immediate tasks that face an anti-imperialist movement are support for Iraqi resistance
to the Anglo-American occupation"
-
"Resistance is the first step towards Iraqi independence"
- Tariq Ali, November 2003,
openly supports the Saddam butchers and Islamofascists.
He hopes that the terror-states of Iran and Syria are safe from attack
for the moment.
He says that Iraqis should be
"proud"
of the people
killing brave American soldiers
in order to stop democracy and establish a tyranny.
Tariq Ali
is like a modern version of Ezra Pound or Paul de Man
and the other quislings who
cheered on Nazism in WW2.
-
Tariq Ali, March 2004,
describes the Iraqis trying to build democracy as
"collaborators".
-
A Night Out With Socialists: Tariq Ali and the ISO,
on a talk by Tariq Ali in America.
- America is such an incredibly free country
that they allow someone who is not American
to come and give a public talk, in time of war,
supporting the enemy that is killing American troops.
See also here.
- Ted Rall
-
Ted Rall
openly supports the killing of US troops and brave Iraqi democrats
by the Saddam butchers and Islamofascists:
-
Time To Get Real In Iraq:
Iraqi Resisters are Patriots
-
"Iraq's natural resources are being raped.
Its people are being murdered.
... the patriotic Iraqi resistance .. is
trying to stop these outrages
by throwing out the perpetrators of an illegal war of aggression
...
On July 5 a bomb killed seven recruits for a U.S.-trained Iraqi police force in Ramadi.
.. Cops who work for a foreign army of occupation are not innocent.
They are collaborators. Traitors. They had it coming."
-
Also here
and here.
-
As has been said many times, people like this aren't anti-war.
They're pro-the other side.
Ted Rall is not "anti-war".
He is pro-Saddam.
Why is that so hard to understand?
-
Why people living in democracies
support fascists and tyrants is a mystery today
just as it was a mystery in WW2 and the Cold War.
But human nature never changes.
- A. N. Wilson
-
War on Iraq is madness,
A.N. Wilson, Evening Standard, 2 Dec 2002,
supporting the Saddam regime against America:
"If I were
young enough for military service and was compelled to
fight either for Iraq or America, I would fight for Iraq"
- Arundhati Roy
-
Arundhati Roy, August 16th, 2004
- "The Iraqi resistance is fighting on the frontlines of the battle against Empire.
And therefore that battle is our battle."
- Simon Jenkins
- I'm not quite sure where to classify Simon Jenkins
(an isolationist, anti-war Tory?),
but I know I agree with
Stephen Pollard
- the man is just always wrong!
-
Article,
Simon Jenkins,
November 9, 2006:
"Republican defeat means the Iraqi insurgency has won:
Belligerent, ill-conceived interventionism has come to an end.
For level-headed Americans it was a good day".
-
I don't want to focus on his claim that
the Democrat win of 2006
means the Iraqi jihadi butchers have won
- I think this is possible,
but I hardly want to quote Simon Jenkins, the man who is always wrong.
What I want to focus on is his open claim that the "insurgency" taking over
is a good thing:
"At this point the insurgency knows it has won,
however long it takes the occupying power to go. Retreat in good order is the best hope.
An era of ill-conceived, belligerent interventionism has come to an end
- by democratic decision, thank goodness."
- The man who is always wrong,
Simon Jenkins says we should stop attacking the Taliban, June 22, 2008.
He alleges that the Taliban are somehow "reforming"
and the older leaders are somehow more "moderate" than the younger ones:
"First, under outside pressure their leaders were moving from the manic extremism of their “student” origins ... The present Nato policy of killing the older leaders and thus leaving young hotheads in charge is daft."
Oh no, hotheads in charge of the Taliban!
-
How often have we heard this kind of spin about extremist organisations.
Don't kill Bin Laden because the alternative is worse.
Don't kill Zarqawi because the alternative is worse.
Don't kill Yassin because the alternative is somehow "worse".
Talk to "moderate" Fatah because the alternative Hamas is somehow "worse".
- Kevin Toolis
- Kevin Toolis, in despair at the violence, bemoans the loss of Saddam,
and calls for al-Sadr or some other new tyrant.
This left-winger basically argues that the Arabs of Iraq
aren't fit for democracy
and need another dictator.
Exactly the same argument that semi-racist right-wingers would make.
-
Compare bloodshed. Saddam is then the moral victor, not Bush,
Kevin Toolis, November 11, 2006:
"our only hope now of escape from Iraq is to find a convenient replacement tyrant,
possibly the blood-drenched Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, to restore a semblance of order.[1]
...
Saddam was survivable if you kept your mouth shut and were deemed no threat.[2]
For all his faults Saddam Hussein's Iraq imposed order.
The water, the electricity, the oil wells faltered but largely kept going.[3]
The roads and streets were safe.
...
the cardinal fallacy of the Bush Administration was to believe that mere tyranny
was the worst state of Man. As we all can see nightly on the television news,
dictatorship, cruel and merciless, is easily outshone by the depravity of civil war and chaos.[4]
...
In this calculus of blood it is Saddam not the West who is the moral victor.[5]
...
Sometimes we need to praise tyrants rather than depose them."
- [1] There is no reason to believe al-Sadr would lead to less killing,
rather than more.
- [2] Whitewash.
The most innocent things got you killed under Saddam.
And how was Saddam "survivable" if he slaughtered you because your relative
committed an offense? (He used to kill entire extended families.)
How was Saddam "survivable" if he chemical bombed your village?
- [3] I thought 1 million children died under sanctions or something.
Has the left abandoned this claim about pre-2003 Iraq?
- [4] Not true.
The worst killing in history was done by governments,
not by anarchies.
Saddam killed more than the Iraqi "resistance".
Al-Sadr would no doubt kill more too.
- [5] Saddam slaughtered the innocent deliberately, torturing children of dissidents,
and dropping chemical weapons on villages.
The West has not deliberately killed one single innocent person.
The West has committed no crimes at all!
And yet Toolis says Saddam is the moral victor!
He seems to be holding the West responsible for what other people (jihadis, al-Sadr) do!
Here's a radical idea for Toolis - Why not hold the jihadis
responsible for what the jihadis do?
- Finally, with a cynical finish worthy of
Alan Clark
and his famous:
"I don't really fill
my mind much with what one set of foreigners is doing to
another",
Toolis says:
"No one deserves a dictator, but in the real world the vast majority of mankind
will have to endure one."
And so the convergence of the left
with the worst elements of the right is complete.
- Ken Loach
- Ken Loach's film
The Wind That Shakes the Barley (2006)
is a sympathetic portrayal of the Old IRA of 1916-23.
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It's a crap film - simplistic, crude, cartoonish, preachy marxist propaganda -
but there's nothing inherently wrong with a sympathetic portrayal of the Old IRA.
Their violence may or may not have been justified
(I'm inclined to think not),
but
- like the Jewish guerillas in Palestine -
the Old IRA were at least fighting to set up a democracy.
As was shown when they won, and set up
a free, stable, multi-party democracy.
- Ken Loach, however, then
slanders the Old IRA
(and search)
by comparing them with the jihadi scum who are
suicide bombing mosques
and women and children in Iraq
in order to stop democracy:
"I think that a story on the struggle for independence is a story that reoccurs and reoccurs.
It is always a good time to tell that story. There are always armies of occupation
somewhere in the world being resisted by the people they are occupying.
I don't need to tell anyone here where the British now unfortunately forcefully and illegally
have an army of occupation."
- Loach of course does not mean to slander the Old IRA.
He means to defend the existence of the Iraqi resistance.
- It is of course nonsense to describe the British as
"occupying" Iraq.
The Iraqi people have voted for them to be there.
The Iraqi people are free to vote for withdrawal at any time.
Unlike in Ireland
(who voted for withdrawal without success from 1874 to 1921),
they have chosen not to.
Why? Because they want the British and Americans to help them fight the resistance.
90 percent of Iraqis support killing the resistance.
Not surprisingly, since the resistance wants to crush their freedom.
- It is also nonsense to claim the jihadis are fighting for "independence".
- Let me sum it up in words Ken Loach can understand:
The British are in Iraq to bring it democratic self-determination.
The resistance are fighting to stop democratic self-determination.
That is the difference.
-
Niall Stanage:
"In drawing the comparison" [between the Old IRA and the Iraqi resistance]
"he" [George Monbiot in this case]
"also exhibited two broader weaknesses that have characterised a lot of leftwing thinking
in recent years - first, an assumption that rebels or insurgents are axiomatically in the right
when they battle against a bigger power; second, a related belief that
no analysis of what those rebels are actually fighting for is necessary.
The IRA during the War of Independence was fighting for a principle that is
precisely the opposite
of that which animates the Iraqi insurgency -
the right of the people to have their democratically-expressed wishes upheld."
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Ken Loach and his screenwriter Paul Laverty
support attacking allied military planes at Shannon.
I do not see how this is any different from saboteurs
attacking allied equipment before
D-Day.
- Ken Loach is on the national council of the RESPECT party of
George Galloway.
- Open support for the fascist Iraqi "resistance"
from European leftists:
- Fascism, Communism and Islamism:
The leftists above
seem confused about what the Iraqi "resistance" actually is.
So let us re-cap.
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This is the "resistance" that
suicide bombs
men, women and
children
in the street,
at mosques
and at religious processions.
It has bombed
Shiite Muslim mosques
and
Christian churches
(and here).
It randomly kills Shiite Muslims,
bombing
Muslim
mosques,
weddings
and
funerals.
It regards Shiite Muslims
as infidels to be exterminated.
It bombed the famous Shiite
Golden Mosque of Samarra
and destroyed it.
It
bombs Muslim pilgrims
and
shoots Muslim pilgrims coming home from Mecca.
It regards
Yazidis
as infidels to be
exterminated.
It kidnaps,
tortures and
beheads
innocent civilians - including journalists and aid workers.
It kidnapped and executed
the innocent
Ken Bigley.
It kidnapped and executed
the anti-war, lifelong charity worker
Margaret Hassan.
It targeted (as a westerner) and killed the
anti-war activist
Marla Ruzicka
(also here).
It
burns people alive
while children dance in the streets.
It
rigged a children's school with explosives.
It is a fascist religious movement which
murders innocent Iraqi barbers
for cutting men's hair.
It
executes clowns.
It
sadistically tortures homosexuals.
It
bombs football fans.
It
bombs crowds of children
(and here).
It
cuts the heads off children
(and here).
It
shoots teachers
(and here)
and
cuts off their heads
in front of terrified primary school children.
It
pulls Shia school children off buses
and executes them.
It
tortures children with electric drills
for having the "wrong" kind of Islam
(also here).
It
cuts the heads off children
for the crime of being Christian.
It kills, rapes and tortures
Mandaeans,
including children,
for the crime of not being Muslim.
It
drowns children
after killing their fathers.
It sets off car bombs
with children in the back seat.
It
beheads and cooks Christian toddlers
(and here).
It
shoots 6 year olds
for having the "wrong" kind of Islam.
It
cuts the heads off the children of villagers.
It
grabs small children
and uses them as cover in suicide bomb attacks.
It has a retarded 13-year-old suicide bomber
hold the hand of a 3-year-old girl
in a suicide bomb attack.
It
set a 5 year old boy on fire
(and here).
It tried to
set a 4 year old boy on fire
in front of his family.
It suicide bombs
children's playgrounds.
It straps bombs to
Down's Syndrome women
and blows them up in crowds of innocents.
It even straps bombs to
a Down's Syndrome child
and blows them up.
It has bombed the
Red Cross
and the United Nations.
It kidnapped
Red Crescent workers.
It has bombed
Abu Ghraib prison,
killing large numbers of prisoners.
It even bombed
the anti-war, anti-American
Al Arabiya TV.
It executed
their reporter
Atwar Bahjat.
It even attacked her funeral.
It breaks all the rules of war.
It has contempt for any sense of honour and decency.
It wears civilian clothes.
It uses civilian vehicles for suicide attacks.
It fights from mosques.
It hides behind civilians.
It uses children in fighting.
It fakes surrenders.
It tortures and executes POWs.
It
uses chemical weapons against civilians.
Like all Islamist armies through history,
it is sexually perverted and predatory.
Its young male soldiers get to have no girlfriends, and no healthy sexual outlets, but
believe that the rape of infidel women and girls
is part of the spoils of war.
It
abducts and gang-rapes Iraqi Christian girls
for pleasure.
It
rapes innocent Iraqi women
in order to force them into becoming suicide bombers.
It kidnapped
the anti-war, anti-American journalist
Giuliana Sgrena.
It kidnapped
the negative, left-wing,
anti-war journalist
Rory Carroll.
It executes
Russian diplomats.
It kidnapped the anti-war,
anti-American,
anti-Israel
Christian Peacemaker Teams.
It not only murdered but actually
tortured
the anti-American,
anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian leftie activist
Tom Fox.
In short, leftie peacenik westerners, it hates you
and everything you stand for.
It hates
Iraqi freedom
and wants to stop it.
It has killed
election workers
(also here),
attacked
polling stations,
and
suicide bombed lines of voters.
It is a sworn enemy of the Iraqi people.
It wants to start a civil war in Iraq
and wants to destroy its economy and
stop its reconstruction.
It seeks to establish
an Islamofascist state
with no free speech,
no freedom of religion,
no human rights
and
no elections.
It has no mandate and
no popular support.
Most Iraqis hate the "resistance"
and want to see it destroyed.
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This is what these people support.
And no one should take anything they say seriously ever again.
A defining image of the Iraq War.
U.S. soldier, Major Mark Bieger,
tries to save a little girl
killed by the Iraqi resistance,
Mosul, May 2005.
Photo by Michael Yon.
See also
here
and
here.
"60 guys from Al Qaeda kidnapped an interpreter's sister. She had a baby boy, 6 months old. They raped her, all 60 guys. Then they cut her to pieces and threw her in the river. They left the 6 month baby boy to sleep in her blood.
We found him on a big farm south of Baghdad. All that was left was his legs and his shoes. The dogs ate him.
...
These people are like animals who came from another planet."
-
Iraqi Interpreter interviewed by Michael J. Totten, August 07, 2007.
"Marines from Golf Company said they recently fished two bodies out of the local river:
a man had been decapitated, and his 4-year old tied to his leg
before both were thrown into the river and the little boy drowned.
The killings were a product of Al Qaeda terror."
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U.S. Cavalry ON Point
report by Andrew Lubin, 8 Feb 2007, sums up this war of good versus evil in Iraq.
"a toddler
was kidnapped in Baghdad in October 2006.
The mother could not afford to pay the ransom, and so the kidnappers killed the child.
They returned the body to the mother.
The little child had been beheaded, roasted and was served on a mound of rice."
- What the brave
mujahideen
warriors of the Iraqi resistance
do to Iraqi Christians.
Report from the
Barnabas Fund.
Return to Iraq.