The Irish left (groups)
Here are some of the
organised opponents of the west in Ireland.
They wouldn't see it that way,
but of course they
are.
I often write "anti-war" in inverted commas,
since many of these organisations actually
support wars and violence,
such as the violent
Palestinian resistance
and even the violent
Iraqi resistance.
- Peace and non-violence
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Anti-War, My Foot by Christopher Hitchens
- pointing out the vast number of people at
"anti-war" demos
that support violence.
I'm sure the majority would support the
Palestinian resistance, for example.
"It is really a disgrace that the liberal press refers to such enemies of liberalism as "antiwar"
when in reality they are straight-out pro-war, but on the other side. Was there a single placard saying,
"No to Jihad"? Of course not."
I'm "anti-war" myself!
Hey, if you can't beat them, join them.
Using their own definitions,
I'm "anti-war" myself!
I totally support the war being waged by the heroic
freedom fighters of the American military, of course.
But I am completely opposed to the violent illegal war being waged by the
fascist warmongering Iraqi resistance.
The Iraqi resistance should stop, and all foreign jihadis get out of Iraq.
Their violence is the root cause of the conflict.
If they stopped, there would be peace.
So I'm anti-war too!
Stop the war!
Stop the jihad!
Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia out of Iraq now!
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Stop the jihad now!
End the Islamist violence against infidels!
Stop the jihad in Iraq and Palestine!
Peace on earth now!
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Heroic freedom fighters.
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- The NGO Peace Alliance
- As there are
possible early signs of victory in Iraq
in mid-late 2007,
Brendan Butler of the NGO Alliance seems to hope against hope that it is not true, 17 Oct 2007.
- From his wealthy Dublin suburb
(houses go for well over €1m on his street)
he sneers:
"Four-and-a-half years ago ... an elated George Bush, standing aboard the US aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln,' declared that "major combat operations have ended in Iraq".
How many more years of infrastructural devastation and deaths of innocent Iraqi civilians are needed before the US administration realises that the Iraqi "war" is unwinnable?"
- Tony Allwright
gives him what he deserves:
"As the millionth brave American soldier passes through Shannon, you can almost taste the despair in Brendan Butler's letter .. on having read some rare positive tidings from Iraq, namely that Al Qaeda seems to be on the retreat ...
Harking back to George Bush's (in)famous visit in 2003 to an aircraft-carrier which flew a banner saying "Mission Accomplished", he writes as if he fervently hopes that the latest good news will be similarly confounded, infrastructure further destroyed, civilian deaths continue, the war remain unwinnable."
- The Peace and Neutrality Alliance (PANA)
- PANA
is quoted in the
Irish Times,
Fri 25 June 2004,
as supporting the
Iraqi fascist "resistance".
PANA's spokesman
is quoted by the Irish Times
as follows:
"He views Iraqi resistance to occupation as
a legitimate independence struggle,
similar to the Irish and, indeed,
American wars of independence."
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If this quote is accurate, then PANA are not anti-war.
They are pro-the other side.
You would think, though, that even if they supported
the goals of the fascist resistance
(an Islamist tyranny, cleansed of infidels),
that they would at least complain about the fact that
the resistance was violent.
- What is the Iraqi "resistance"?
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PANA doesn't like being called anti-American
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Bizarrely, the "anti-war" group
PANA opposes the disarming of Hezbollah,
Aug 2006:
"The resolution's call for the International Force to be used to prevent
the resistance in Lebanon from rearming is recipe for possible future military conflict
between UN forces and the resistance.
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PANA believes that an Irish Army that was formed as a consequence of a national
war of resistance against an army of occupation has no role
in a war against a national resistance movement."
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South Dublin City Anti War Group
(or via here)
claims to be
"against all wars".
But bizarrely, prominent among their "Friends" list
on their front page
is the violent, pro-war group Sinn Fein - IRA,
who have killed over 1,500 people,
and are still killing today.
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Only against some wars, it seems.
- "Anti-War" Ireland
- gluaiseacht.net
- The Stop Bush Campaign
- The Campaign for Irish Neutrality and Democracy
- Ireland Against The War
- Dublin Grassroots Network
- Co.Kildare anti-war
- Galway anti-war
- Human Rights for Change
(Anti-America, Anti-Israel)
- The Catholic Worker Movement
- Religion and socialism.
Two bad ideas in one!
- Pitstop Ploughshares
- By their own admission:
"five members of the pacifist Catholic Worker movement made their way into Shannon Airport
and non-violently disarmed a U.S. navy war plane in the early hours of February 3rd. 2003."
- And yet they were
acquitted by the jury
- on the grounds that
they had a lawful reason to damage property.
This gives a green light, for example, to any jihadist or fellow traveller
to attack US military equipment in Ireland.
A shameful day for Ireland.
The law must be changed, so that juries
cannot make politicised decisions like this,
completely outside democratic control.
- I do not see how what they did
is any different from saboteurs
attacking allied equipment before
D-Day.
- German sabotage in WW1:
- German sabotage in WW2:
- Acquitted saboteur, Australian
Ciaron O'Reilly,
has many convictions for attacks on the military of free countries.
Oddly enough, I can't find any attacks by him on the military of dictatorships.
If you know of any, let me know.
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The anti-Israel
Derry Anti-War Coalition
destroy offices of US defence company
Raytheon,
Derry, NI, Aug 2006.
"thousands of documents and dozens of computers were burned
and thrown from windows by members of a group that entered at 8am."
They were probably encouraged by the Pitstop Ploughshares verdict,
which gave the green light to this kind of violence.
Leading this attack on the allied military was SWP moonbat
Eamonn McCann.
Every argument he makes could be made against the allied military in WW2.
Why he thinks he is morally different from a saboteur in WW2 I don't know.
"Anti-war" people are often remarkably non-judgemental about
violence by others
- Eoin Dubsky, Feb 2006, says that
by Ireland allowing America to use our airports and airspace,
"we've surrendered any possible moral defence
against countries or terrorists
who may attack us to prevent further military and CIA flights through Ireland".
- Again, for someone who is meant to be "anti-war",
Dubsky is remarkably non-judgemental about
violence by other people.
Surely the Islamofascists wishing to prevent military and CIA flights through Ireland
should use protest, diplomacy and sanctions first,
instead of heading straight to violent terrorism against our women and children?
- "Anti-war" people are not consistent:
- I am consistent:
- It's easier for me. I make no claims to be anti-war.
I support the military operations of America, Britain and Israel.
I wish their military luck
in defeating and killing Islamist fighters worldwide.
I wish for victory for free countries like Israel,
and defeat for tyrannies like Iran.
My philosophy is consistent, even if you disagree with it.
Unlike the "anti-war" people,
I am not inconsistent or hypocritical.
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thereligionofpeace.com
makes the point:
- Iraqi civilians killed (all deliberately) in 2006 by the Iraqi resistance: 16,791.
- Iraqi civilians killed (all accidentally) in 2006 by Americans: 225.
- In other words, the incredibly careful and skilled
Americans have hardly killed anyone innocent since 2003,
and those that have died have all been killed accidentally
while engaged in street warfare with jihadis.
Almost all the deaths in Iraq are at the hands of the resistance, not at the hands of the Americans.
As Glen Reinsford says:
"Iraqis aren't
dying from war.
They are being murdered by
Islamic terrorists."
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The Irish left's support for the Iraqi fascist "resistance"
- The Iraqi fascist "resistance"
- The left's support for the Iraqi fascist "resistance"
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A Message From The Iraq Resistance,
December 2004
- "We thank all those, including those of Britain and the U.S.,
who took to the streets in protest
against this war
and
against Globalism.
We also thank France, Germany and other states
for their position,
which least to say are considered wise and balanced, til now."
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Are the "anti-war" protesters proud?
Remember these are incredibly violent people that are
thanking you.
Even if you agree with their goals, these are violent, pro-war people.
Shouldn't that disturb you at all?
- Interesting how the jihadi thug considers the
anti-globalisation struggle
as part of the same struggle for tyranny and against freedom worldwide.
Which of course it is.
- The UCD "Anti-War" Group says
(Feb 01, 2006):
"We express our solidarity with all democratic, secular and progressive opposition forces
in Iraq fighting for US-UK defeat."
- Given that this "fighting" involves not parliamentary rhetoric
or civil disobedience (why not?)
but rather actual, literal fighting, that is, violence,
including the
suicide bombing of mosques and crowds of women and children,
it seems amazing that the UCD "Anti-War" Group did not mention this.
- Why did the UCD "Anti-War" Group not add a disclaimer,
given the ongoing slaughter of
10,000 or more Iraqis
by people "fighting for US-UK defeat",
to the effect that:
We only support those Iraqis who resist the US occupation through peaceful means.
We condemn the disgusting acts of those who resist the US through violence.
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- CHALLENGE to the UCD "Anti-War" Group:
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Does the UCD "Anti-War" Group support the violent Iraqi resistance?
If not, please issue such a disclaimer,
condemning the violent Iraqi resistance,
and apologising for the ambiguity.
Tell me about it,
and I will happily link to it.
Anti-capitalism,
anti-globalisation, anti-free enterprise, anti-free trade
- Irish anti-globalisation
- "Anarchists"
who hate capitalism.
I find
anti-globalisation, anti-capitalist "anarchists"
baffling.
How could an anarchist
hate capitalism??
How could an anarchist
want to take away economic freedom
and set up a totalitarian collectivist government?
The answer is they're not anarchists, of course. They're socialists.
In fact, they say so on the page.
Without any introduction at all they
start talking about: "bringing socialism about".
So why don't they call themselves socialists (or, more accurately,
totalitarian communists)?
"Anarchist" sounds cooler, I guess,
to the daft young people who fall for this stuff.
- Irish "libertarians"
who, strangely, hate capitalism,
America and NATO.
Baffling.
How could a libertarian
hate capitalism and America??
The answer is, of course, they're not libertarians.
I am a libertarian.
They are totalitarian communists.
- Socialists and communists
- Trade unions
Other
- Indymedia
- Indymedia Ireland
- Indymedia Watch
- Indymedia Ireland Watch
- Indymedia Ireland glorifies the Islamist killer of Jew civilian settlers:
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Sniper Killer of 11 Israeli Soldiers: Thaer Hamad's Father Video Interviewed, anonymous article,
23 Feb 2010. Indymedia Ireland glorifies the killer of Israeli civilian settlers
near Ofra in Mar 2002.
- Palestinian sniper
Thaer Hamad killed 7 soldiers, and 3 civilians:
Sergei Birmov, 33,
Vadim Balagula, 32,
and Didi Yitzhak, 66.
Incredibly, instead of executing him, the Israelis have him in jail.
The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (who have carried out many
direct attacks on
Jew civilians, including direct attacks on women and children)
claimed responsibility for the attack.
Yet the Indymedia article
idiotically claims he did not want to kill civilians.
- They embed a video from some anonymous Irish jihad-lover
who tells Hamad's family they should be proud of him.
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Indymedia Ireland, 2 July 2011, carries a press release from the terrorist group the
PFLP.

T-shirt from
here
sums up the
real Cuban revolution.
Irish left support for other fascist and communist tyranny
Why are young people attracted to the left
- The mind of the left
- What is wrong with us
that we are attracted to leftism when we are young?
- I can remember being young and finding this kind of stuff
convincing.
In the 1980s I was pro-CND,
in other words,
pro-Soviet invasion of western Europe.
Luckily, CND failed
and the Soviet aggressor was stopped.
I was never stupid enough to be consciously pro-Soviet,
but I remember being
pro-Nicaragua, pro-Libya, pro-Palestine, pro-Cuba.
And of course anti-Reagan, anti-Thatcher.
I look back now with embarrassment.
Though I guess at least I've learnt something from it.
- Leaving the left
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Was I That Stupid?
(and copies)
by Gerald Posner, March 4, 2003:
"Three decades later I have no pride in the memory of those protests. Rather, I wonder how it was possible to be so mistaken about real politics and world events."
- Anti-globalisation, anti-capitalist protesters
- Victor Davis Hanson
describes well why taking no action against fascists,
dictators and genocides
is always popular:
"The truth is that one can sound moral only through the advocacy of restraint,
never preemption. Appeasement wins applause for its ethical posturing and non-belligerency;
and even when the corpses later pile up it rarely earns the disgust it deserves
for getting thousands killed. In contrast, preemption is always equated with blood lust;
and even when it saves thousands, critics sigh that in retrospect there must have been a better way."
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