The Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland
(the Clonskeagh mosque in Dublin,
the largest mosque in Ireland)
is a reactionary, conservative mosque
that is apparently linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Clonskeagh mosque
will clearly be of no help in the struggle against Islamism.
I pose a number of questions on this page to the
Clonskeagh mosque.
If they ever answer, please tell me
here.
The ICCI was built and funded by
the ruling family of
Dubai,
United Arab Emirates,
a country with an appalling
human rights record
("Laws prohibit criticism of the government, ruling families, and friendly governments").
Has the ICCI ever condemned the lack of freedom in Dubai?
Tell me here.
In 2007 the Clonskeagh mosque hosted two extremist speakers:
Saudi cleric
Salman Al Awda
(or
Salman al-Audah
or Salman Al-Aouda),
one of the
26 Saudi scholars
who issued the fatwa in 2004 calling for holy war against the Americans in Iraq.
"There is no doubt that the Jihad against the occupation is a duty of those who are capable of it."
And this man was let into Ireland!
He visited Clonskeagh in 2007.
The moderate Shia
Ali Al Saleh
said that this cleric had recently written an article in a Saudi newspaper
describing Shias as "non-Muslims".
Egyptian cleric
Wagdy Ghoneim
(or Wagdi Ghoneim
or Wajdi Ghunaim),
supporter of suicide bombing.
"Those young people who explode themselves to kill the Jews were not committing suicide but jihad."
He was denied entrance into Canada for being a member of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
And yet he was let into Ireland!
And invited by the Clonskeagh mosque.
He visited Clonskeagh in 2006
and 2007.
Heroically brave Norwegian-Syrian lesbian
Sara Azmeh Rasmussen
travels to Ireland and protests outside the Clonskeagh mosque, June-July 2011,
because it is the headquarters of the
European Council for Fatwa and Research,
which supports the death penalty for homosexuality.
From VG
(Norwegian newspaper),
30 June 2011
and
2 July 2011.
It seems this was only covered in the Norwegian media.
I did not hear about this in the Irish media at all!
I heard about it through an anonymous Internet tip off from Norway. (Thanks!)
She (of course) got threatened:
"A mob gathered around me. They tore my sign from me,
called me a pig, spat on me and threatened me
...
A man threatened me. He said that of course I should be killed.
Then he repeated it three times with pressure on the word kill."
"Here in Dublin, many .. told me how sinful and unclean I am.
Some have said that I must be sent by the Jews and Zionists.
The woman who asked me to leave [said] that if I was born like this,
there must be a punishment for the sins that my parents have done.
...
It is precisely this attitude that creates the violent prejudices against gays in Muslim communities."
"General Secretary of Fatwa Council, Sheikh Hussein Halawa, agreed to meet Rasmussen on Tuesday, and told her that she was suffering from a disease".
"In the meeting with General Secretary of Fatwa Council on Tuesday, Rasmussen was told that she was suffering from a disease.
... For those who have a disease, I will not ask for the death penalty, said Sheikh Hussein Halawa to Rasmussen.
The Secretary-General, who stressed that he only gave his own view on the matter, explained that the question of the death penalty for gays was difficult.
He believes that homosexuality should be divided into three categories: those who are born so, those who have chosen it, and those who try to convert others to be gays.
[He said that] for those who want to push others to be gays, Sharia [requires] the death penalty."
Sara Azmeh Rasmussen burns the hijab, International Womens Day, Oslo, Norway, 2009.
Cool, stirring music.
It is a wonderful thing to be free.
Why does the left not support the liberation of Muslim women and gays?
The Egyptian religious conservative
Hussein Halawa,
Imam of the
ICCI.
Mary Fitzgerald
finds Halawa is apparently linked to the Muslim Brotherhood:
"Many Muslim Brotherhood members I met recently in Cairo asked me if I knew Sheikh Halawa after hearing I was from Ireland."
Hussein Halawa
denies
the
claim
that he said he would like to see Ireland an Islamic state.
But
"I have never made such a statement"
is not much of a denial.
I would like to see him go further and
state clearly that he is opposed to an Islamic state
because he believes in freedom of religion
for all, including atheists
like me.
I don't threaten his religious freedom.
I want to be confident that he does not threaten mine.
Open question to Hussein Halawa:
Can you please state openly that you believe in freedom of religion,
including the right to be an atheist,
and including the right of a Muslim to convert from Islam to atheism?
In particular, you need to condemn the Islamic states that punish apostates.
And you need to explain why you have not condemned this before.
Let me know the answer here.
Hussein Halawa is interviewed by the DCU Talking Heads project on 6 Mar 2012.
Also here.
They do a great job of asking him
some hard questions.
Better than the mainstream media!
(I got the feeling they got some of the questions from this site.)
But he evaded the answers.
Little was learnt.
He can't speak English, so it is very hard to cross-examine his evasive answers.
He claims to condemn terror,
but does not condemn Palestinian terror.
He also seems vague on whether Muslims carried out 9/11 and other acts.
He revealed his anti-Israel prejudice
when he criticised Obama
for allegedly supporting Israel.
(If only that was true!)
He is asked about Sara Azmeh Rasmussen,
who the DCU person has actually been in touch with.
Great research!
He claims the Danish cartoonists should be "held accountable"
in some vague, but threatening way.
We get vague honeyed words about no "compulsion" in religion.
But he never condemns the application of sharia law in Pakistan, Iran, Gaza, Sudan, Saudi Arabia or Egypt.
It seems highly unlikely that he is opposed to this.
The ECFR is headed by
the extremist religious fascist
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi,
who, among many other disgusting beliefs,
supports suicide bombing of civilians,
explicitly rejects separation of state and church
and freedom of religion,
and supports death for atheists and homosexuals.
He is banned from entering the US because of his support for violence and terror.
The Tory party has called for him to be banned from the UK.
The 'sheikh of death' must be barred,
Mark Dooley,
Sunday Independent,
July 17th 2005.
- "Yusuf al-Qaradawi is banned from entering the United States
and will soon be barred from Britain.
If Minister McDowell is serious about combating Islamic fanaticism here,
he must follow suit by ensuring that the "theologian of terror" is permanently prevented
from entering this State."
This group should have no place in Ireland.
The ECFR should be expelled from Ireland.
Wikileaks cables on the Clonskeagh mosque
[US diplomatic cable, 2006] (leaked Apr 2011) says:
"In conversations with emboffs, key
integrationist Muslims and at least one journalist charge
that ICCI answers to Al Qaradawi.
...
In discussions with emboffs, the above-named
pluralistic individuals and others have accused Halawa and
other leaders at ICCI, and a smaller, more radical mosque,
South Circular Road (SCR) Mosque and notably its Imam,
Sudanese Yahya Al Hussein, of membership in the Muslim
Brotherhood. Despite the historical and political
connections that ICCI has with the GOI, other prominent
Muslims deem that its teaching is influenced by Wahhabism
with a close link to the ultraconservative Deobandi school of
Islam (espoused by the Taliban). One journalist in town
reported that other than in Qatar, the MB has its strongest
base in Ireland, and charged that Al Qaradawi "runs Islam in
Ireland."
...
When queried in a May 23 interview by emboffs
about the European role of MB, Halawa and Saleem failed to
clarify their position regarding the organization
... When pressed on Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, they
demonstrated loyalty to him by claiming that he is a model of
moderate Islam".
Salah Sultan, 23 Aug 2011, says that "every Zionist who enters Egypt - tourist or not - should be killed."
What does the Clonskeagh mosque have to say about this?
Ali Selim says he
does not believe
the London suicide bombings
were carried out by Muslims:
"events that happened in England - I personally haven't seen compelling proof
that that was done by Muslims."
Hot Press: "But the 7/7 bombers were Muslims!"
"In my understanding, I haven't seen proof that those who did that were Muslims."
He also expresses doubts about the standard theories of 9/11.
He says he is against violence,
but declines to judge Bin Laden as a terrorist, saying he would have to meet him and talk to him.
He declines to say that people should have the right to draw cartoons of Muhammed
in a free society.
He declines to condemn the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.
He defends Sharia law if the majority want it.
He says about Iraq:
"all the Iraqi people describe themselves as fighting against the occupation",
which is nonsense.
How about all of the Iraqi army and police, who are fighting with the occupation
against the jihadis?
He says: "So they see that they have no other alternative",
which sounds like support for violence to me.
If not, clarify this here.
And they do have an alternative.
They don't have to fight allied troops.
They can simply vote for a party
that asks for the occupation to end.
Why didn't they?
The answer is because they don't want the occupation to end.
At least, not yet.
He never has doubts about his belief in an invisible supernatural being:
"Never! Never. Never. There is God, all the time.
I find it really very strange if someone believes - or even thinks
- that there is no Allah or there is no God."
Maybe he should read a bit more.
In short, he is at best a useless neutral in this global war.
He will be of absolutely no use at all in this conflict.
No other minority that I know of
threatens our ancient freedoms like this.
Only the Muslim community, apparently.
If there is any other minority
that has openly threatened our ancient freedoms in Ireland,
let me know here.
He claims
(jump to here)
that Muslims are the major victims of violence worldwide.
Despite the
non-stop killings by the jihad
all over the world, every day since 9/11 (every day since the start of Islam in fact),
he says:
"Look to the east or to the west,
or wherever you want to look,
you will find that it is only the Muslim blood being shed everywhere."
He refuses to condemn Bin Laden.
"Well, I don't know him.
Consequently, I can't say I respect or do not respect him."
Yeah, we know where you're coming from.
We understand you, even if Mary Fitzgerald doesn't.
Open question to Ali Selim:
Can you state that
all Muslims in the world should have the right to freely convert
to any other religion, or to atheism,
without fear.
Can you state that everyone in the world
should have the right to criticise Muhammed.
Can you state that everyone in the world
should have the right to draw cartoons of Muhammed.
Can you state clearly that Salman Rushdie has the right to publish his book,
even if you think it is rubbish.
Let me know the answer here.
Ali Selim of the Clonskeagh mosque supports the
blasphemy law, RTE, Prime Time, 12th January 2010.
And see part 2.
He welcomes the law, and threatens our freedoms more:
"I would be more delighted to see it going further and further.
But it has taken the first step" [to enslaving Ireland under sharia].
Talking about Islam, he says:
"We don't impose it on others",
but then hypocritically says:
"all that we ask others to do with it,
do not degrade it, full stop.""If you say something offensive about my prophet,
it's something that is definitely not going to be tolerated." Ali Selim, quoted on 14 Mar 2010:
"Thank you Ireland for the recent blasphemy legislation."
Is Dermot Ahern proud?
"There is no such thing as democracy. Democracy is founded on principles of heresy. The ten principles of democracy constitute utter heresy: the freedom of religion, the freedom of belief – we have a punishment for apostasy
...
In Egypt, there are 80 million citizens, only five million of whom are
Crusaders
... They are a minority. A minority in a Muslim country has a certain status. Don't say everyone is equal. Don't tell me that every citizen enjoys equal and complete rights. Says who?! How can you possibly draw a parallel between the majority and a minority?
...
There are 70 million of us! So how can you talk to me about equal rights? Whenever I build a mosque, he deserves to build a church?! Says who?"
- Muslim Brotherhood fascist
Wagdi Ghoneim, Aug 2011,
attacks democracy and freedom of religion.
And he
supports the
oppression of the Coptic Christians in Egypt.
Wagdi Ghoneim has repeatedly been invited
to the Clonskeagh mosque,
which is said to be linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Since 1995.
